Playing Pink Gun
Daniel Pipes has some wisdom to share about Barack Obama and the Muslim World.
How do Muslims see Barack Hussein Obama? They have three choices: either as he presents himself – someone who has "never been a Muslim" and has "always been a Christian"; or as a fellow Muslim; or as an apostate from Islam.
I know that Pipes is a Dispassionate Professional Musselman Expert, but nevertheless, isn't it at least possible that Muslims have more than three choices when they contemplate Mr. Barack O'Hussein? Perhaps the chief interest of at least a few Muslims is political -- perhaps they have questions as to his likely foreign policy, wondering "is he going to drop bombs on us?" Maybe there are even some whose interest in the question of whether or not Mr. O'Hussein is genetically Islamic is merely a matter of idle speculation, if they care about the issue at all.
But then again, Pipes has some pretty convincing evidence that the Muhammadans look at Obama and burst out chanting "One of Us! One of Us!"
Arabic discussions of Obama sometimes mention his middle name as a code, with no further comment needed.
No kidding! Obama's middle name used as a code to suggest that he's not really a Christian! Imagine that! Just goes to show what crazy religious extremists those Muslims are. I'm so glad people like Pipes and the fine folks he hangs with are above that sort of thing. They're far too sophisticated, you see, as is clear from the fact that they are not Muslims. QED.
Pipes also cites an article quoting an Egyptian grocer who insists that Obama can't possibly be a Christian, which is certainly proof of something very important, namely, that Egyptian grocers can be every bit as bright as the idiots at Free Republic.
On the other hand Mark Krikorian at the Corner reads Pipes' article and concludes, soberly,
Our relations with the Muslim world could well deteriorate substantially under an Obama Administration, precisely because Muslims think he might be symaptico, and when he disappoints them (as he must, both because he is not, in fact, a Muslim and because of the imperatives of American politics), they're going to feel betrayed and the impression of him as an apostate enemy of the ummah will spread and deepen. Even a Jewish president would hold less potential for worsening relations because many, if not most, Muslims already think Jews run the country, and would see the election of a President Lieberman, for instance, as merely cutting out the middleman.
Yeah, probably. Good thing Obama is actually the Anti-Christ, then; we'll be well into the Tribulation before the "Muhammadens" (Krikorian's word) wake up and smell the brimstone. Suckas!


Daniel Pipes this early in the morning makes my head hurt. That is too much stupid to begin the day with.
Posted by: DrDick | August 27, 2008 at 10:41 AM
The Antichrist is supposed to be bad , right ?
Antifreeze is good
Aunty Krissy cheek pinch
The magical thinking rules are really hard !
When Unka Maverik bombs Iran and we are incinerated in a mutually assured destruction sequence , I call dibs on the front seat to Heck !
Posted by: theperilouspea | August 27, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Pipes is a fool. Everybody knows that all of the presidential candidates belong to the same dynasty. "It is called the Merovingian dynasty and it claims to have a long history, being nearly has ancient as the human race. The good news is that God destroyed this evil dynasty once before, in the Great Flood (Gen. 7), and He is about to do it again (Rev. 19)."
King Merovee, a king of France sired by a mysterious “beast of the sea,” is a claim that the Merovingian dynasty has literal Satanic descent."
http://www.watch-unto-prayer.org/dragon-lineage.html
So it doesn't matter who wins, we're fucked either way.
Posted by: cosmic tumbler | August 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM
This is a perfect example of how stupidity gets enshrined and calcified in politics. Facts and truth don't matter; what matters is perception, no matter how ridiculously wrong that perception may be.
Posted by: Bitter Scribe | August 27, 2008 at 11:28 AM
This from the people who have so accurately and successfully predicted Muslim reactions in the past.
Posted by: Daddy Love | August 27, 2008 at 12:35 PM
"Our relations with the Muslim world could well deteriorate substantially under an Obama Administration,..."
Mustn't mess with that special relationship Bush/Cheney created.
Posted by: Davis | August 27, 2008 at 04:17 PM
Our relations with the Muslim world could well deteriorate substantially under an Obama Administration, precisely because Muslims think he might be symaptico... bluh bluh bluh bluh.
Whatever. I was just looking at this, or maybe this; or even this little thing here, and wondering why "Obama = Muslim" could mean anything to anybody in comparison. Guess I should get my priorities straight, huh?
Posted by: Jemand von Niemand | August 27, 2008 at 04:54 PM
"Our relations with the Muslim world could well deteriorate substantially under an Obama Administration,..."
And improve substantially when they've all been bombed to dust.
Posted by: dave | August 27, 2008 at 04:58 PM
Pipes also cites an article quoting an Egyptian grocer who insists that Obama can't possibly be a Christian, which is certainly proof of something very important, namely, that Egyptian grocers can be every bit as bright as the idiots at Free Republic.
Egyptian grocers are the cab drivers of the Muhammedan world? Pipes is auditioning to become little Tommy Friedman?
Posted by: flory | August 27, 2008 at 06:15 PM
Does it bother none of these assholes that just five years ago they were claiming the radical Muslim Osama bin Laden was toasting the health of the very secular apostate Muslim, Saddam Obama, I mean, Hussein? And they were making all sorts of linkages?
Posted by: actor212 | August 27, 2008 at 08:28 PM
This idea just doesn't seem to be getting any traction, not for lack of effort on Pipes' part though. The problem is it's just complicated enough that morons who forward right-wing emails can't quite get their heads around it.
Posted by: EJ | August 28, 2008 at 05:35 PM
it's really quite astonishing that neo-cons like Pipes who are so fond of accusing "the left" of appeasement think that we shouldn't elect Obama because the radical Islamists will be offended by Obama's supposed apostacy. Would Pipes have suggested the British should not have made Churchil Prime Minister because it would have made the Nazis angry?
Posted by: chris murphy | September 03, 2008 at 01:03 PM