In This Greater Battle
The question of just what the hell "winning in Iraq" means for McCain and similarly crazy people can never be answered, because the common sense answer would be "we get the hell out of there," and that creates a pretty obvious problem when you want to stay there forever. This is why conservatives are always rooting for bad news and disaster in Iraq: if there's no war to fight, we'd have to come home, and they yearn for a multi-generational conflict that serves as a pretext for a vicious, if pointless, imperialism. Good luck for them that Iraq will, no matter what else happens, experience for the next several decades at least a certain level of terrorist violence that would be traumatic if we had to endure it in the US but which we don't mind so much if it occurs in the dark places of the Earth, because that's what the coolies do and why they need us to give them a helpful hand in the form of a permanent occupation of their country.
That's "victory in Iraq," and ain't it grand.


Hey thers, don't forget that victory also entails barricade-enforced segregation, endless checkpoints and an armed presence wherever you look.
In short -- it's exactly what they want for the U.S. too.
Posted by: Jay_B | August 19, 2008 at 01:55 PM
Yep; it's the Forever War. All War, all the time; use it or lose it; love it or leave it -- and everywhere is Iraq.
If you think about it, that worldview is a lot like the constant reliving of a long, drawn-out traumatic experience... being held in captivity for years and occasionally tortured, for example.
Posted by: Jemand von Niemand | August 19, 2008 at 02:04 PM
When that last drop of sweet, sweet crude is on a tanker bound for the Hue Ess of Hay for refining and resale by Big Oil, then, and only then, will we achieve Victory In Iraq.
Posted by: LittlePig | August 19, 2008 at 03:35 PM
This is why conservatives are always rooting for bad news and disaster in Iraq
Sometimes things are so obvious that they can stare you in the face for years before you finally see them. This is absolutely spot on, and in keeping with the timeworn conservative tradition of always accusing your opponents of exactly what you yourself are guilty of.
I was reminded of this just today when I saw an article by Andrew Sullivan, of all people, pointing out the bleeding obvious about McCain's torture experience as a POW: the Bush administration, and McCain himself, don't believe what he went through was torture.
Posted by: Me | August 19, 2008 at 05:57 PM
McCain doesn't believe he went through torture? Is this some kind of denial, or is he rationalizing his support of Dubya's Genital Shocking Brigade?
Posted by: Bitter Scribe | August 19, 2008 at 08:04 PM
There's avery simple standard by which the likes of McCain can judge whether we are "winning" in Iraq--reelection in 2012.
Posted by: rea | August 20, 2008 at 08:26 AM